{"id":4067,"date":"2024-05-19T22:50:10","date_gmt":"2024-05-20T03:50:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/?p=4067"},"modified":"2026-01-08T09:16:36","modified_gmt":"2026-01-08T15:16:36","slug":"when-is-a-triangle-like-a-circle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/when-is-a-triangle-like-a-circle\/","title":{"rendered":"When is a triangle like a circle?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This week&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/thefiddler.substack.com\/p\/when-is-a-triangle-like-a-circle\">Fiddler<\/a> is about a generalized notion of &#8220;radius&#8221;.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nFor a circle with radius $r$, its area is $\\pi r^2$ and its circumference is $2\\pi r$. If you take the derivative of the area formula with respect to $r$, you get the circumference formula! Let&#8217;s define the term &#8220;differential radius.&#8221; The differential radius $r$ of a shape with area $A$ and perimeter $P$ (both functions of $r$) has the property that $dA\/dr = P$. (Note that $A$ always scales with $r^2$ and $P$ always scales with $r$.)<\/p>\n<p>For example, consider a square with side length $s$. Its differential radius is $r = s\/2$. The square&#8217;s area is $s^2$, or $4r^2$, and its perimeter is $4s$, or $8r$. Sure enough, $dA\/dr = d(4r^2)\/dr = 8r = P$. What is the differential radius of an equilateral triangle with side length s?<\/p>\n<p><em>Extra credit:<\/em><br \/>\nWhat is the differential radius of a rectangle with sides of length $a$ and $b$?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My solution:<br \/>\n<a href=\"javascript:Solution('soln_trianglecircle','toggle_trianglecircle')\" id=\"toggle_trianglecircle\">[Show Solution]<\/a><\/p>\n<div id=\"soln_trianglecircle\" style=\"display: none\">\n<p>In general, if $A$ scales with $r^2$ and $P$ scales with $r$ and $P$ is the derivative of $A$, then it must be the case that:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\nA = \\alpha r^2\\qquad\\text{and}\\qquad P = 2\\alpha r<br \/>\n\\]for some constant of proportionality $\\alpha$. If we have a certain shape and we know formulas for its area and perimeter, then we can solve for $\\alpha$ and $r$ in terms of $A$ and $P$ and we obtain:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\n\\alpha = \\frac{P^2}{4A}\\qquad\\text{and}\\qquad r = \\frac{2A}{P}<br \/>\n\\]<br \/>\nWe can verify this formula for a square of sidelength $s$. Here, $P=4s$ and $A=s^2$. Substituting into the above formulas, we obtain $\\alpha = 4$ and $r = \\tfrac{s}{2}$, just as the problem stated.<\/p>\n<p>In general, we can solve the case for a regular polygon with $n$ sides of length $s$. The perimeter is $P=ns$ and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mathopenref.com\/polygonregulararea.html\">area is<\/a> $A = \\frac{ns^2}{4\\tan(\\pi\/n)}$. Therefore, we obtain:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\n\\alpha = n\\tan\\bigl(\\tfrac{\\pi}{n}\\bigr),\\qquad\\text{and}\\qquad r = \\frac{s}{2}\\cot\\bigl(\\tfrac{\\pi}{n}\\bigr)<br \/>\n\\]So, in particular, for $n=3$, we get $r=\\frac{\\sqrt{3}}{6}s$. For regular polygons, the differential radius is the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Apothem\">apothem<\/a> (the line joining the center of the polygon to the midpoint of one of its sides. It is also the &#8220;inradius&#8221; (radius of the inscribed circle). Note that based on the general formula for $r$, we have:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\nA = \\frac{P\\cdot r}{2}<br \/>\n\\]In the case of the regular polygon, this means the area is one half of the perimeter times the differential radius (apothem). This makes sense, since we can unfold a regular polygon and compute its area using the length of the bases (the perimeter) and the height (apothem). See below for a visual demonstration:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"449\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4073\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1.png 1600w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1-300x84.png 300w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1-1024x287.png 1024w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1-768x216.png 768w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1-1536x431.png 1536w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle1-1200x337.png 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here is an animated version:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle4.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"836\" height=\"504\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4082\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Extra credit<\/h3>\n<p>For the case of a rectangle of side lengths $a$ and $b$, the perimeter is $P=2(a+b)$ and the area is $A=ab$. Applying the formula above, we obtain:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\n\\alpha = \\frac{(a+b)^2}{ab}\\qquad\\text{and}\\qquad r = \\frac{ab}{a+b}<br \/>\n\\]The differential radius is half of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Harmonic_mean\">harmonic mean<\/a> of $a$ and $b$. It also satisfies the nice formula:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\n\\frac{1}{r} = \\frac{1}{a} + \\frac{1}{b}<br \/>\n\\]which is incidentally how you add <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Series_and_parallel_circuits\">resistors in parallel<\/a>. We can construct the differential radius geometrically by drawing a line connecting opposite corners, and then another line at 45 degrees to the other corner and marking the intersection. The result is illustrated in the image below:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1437\" height=\"258\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4072\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2.png 1437w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2-300x54.png 300w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2-1024x184.png 1024w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2-768x138.png 768w, https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle2-1200x215.png 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The triangles on the right are what you get when you &#8220;unfold&#8221; the rectangle on the left. The area of the rectangle, $ab$, is simply the base of the triangles (perimeter of rectangle), times the height ($r$, or the differential radius), times one half.<\/p>\n<p>This works because triangles AFP and PGC are similar. It follows that:<br \/>\n\\begin{align*}<br \/>\n\\frac{AF}{FP} &#038;= \\frac{AD-DF}{FP} = \\frac{b-r}{r},\\quad\\text{and}\\\\[2mm]<br \/>\n\\frac{PG}{GC} &#038;= \\frac{PG}{DC-DG} = \\frac{r}{a-r}<br \/>\n\\end{align*}Equating them, we obtain:<br \/>\n\\[<br \/>\n\\frac{r}{a-r}=\\frac{b-r}{r}<br \/>\n\\]Solving this equation for $r$, we obtain $r = \\frac{ab}{a+b}$, as required.<\/p>\n<p>Here is an animation of the rectangle unfolding into four triangles with equal height and whose bases sum to the perimeter of the rectangle!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/trianglecircle3.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"610\" height=\"359\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4079\" \/>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week&#8217;s Fiddler is about a generalized notion of &#8220;radius&#8221;. For a circle with radius $r$, its area is $\\pi r^2$ and its circumference is $2\\pi r$. If you take the derivative of the area formula with respect to $r$, you get the circumference formula! Let&#8217;s define the term &#8220;differential radius.&#8221; The differential radius $r$ &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/laurentlessard.com\/bookproofs\/when-is-a-triangle-like-a-circle\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;When is a triangle like a circle?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4072,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[42],"tags":[28,43,10],"class_list":["post-4067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-fiddler","tag-calculus","tag-fiddler","tag-geometry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.1.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"This week&#039;s Fiddler is about a generalized notion of &quot;radius&quot;. 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